Direct Modeling - The Future of 3D Design

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thomas-neemann wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 7:51 am specifically in this case a comparison between freecad and bricscad
There is no comparison between the two.
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grd wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 7:56 am
There is no comparison between the two.
the "same" thing is generated in these two videos. once in bricscad and once in freecad
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thomas-neemann wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 7:59 am the "same" thing is generated in these two videos. once in bricscad and once in freecad
Yes, I know that. I saw the videos too. But there is no comparison between FreeCAD and BricsCAD. It is like comparing apples with pears.
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grd wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 8:08 am
it is intended to show that direct modeling is also possible in freecad. many people say freecad can't do it
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thomas-neemann wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 8:12 am it is intended to show that direct modeling is also possible in freecad. many people say freecad can't do it
Now we are getting there. Yes, I think that it is possible. Do I want it? Yes. Do I want to program it? No.
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grd wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 8:21 am
ok
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grd wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 8:21 am Now we are getting there. Yes, I think that it is possible. Do I want it? Yes. Do I want to program it? No.
I don't even want it. IMHO, direct modelling with a sophisticated parametric modeler is a time machine: throws you 40 years back in no time.

If that would be really possible, I'd rather use it to go back and buy some bitcoins :lol:
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mfro wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:03 am I don't even want it. IMHO, direct modelling with a sophisticated parametric modeler is a time machine: throws you 40 years back in no time.
DM does have it's pros and it's cons. You need to be a lot more careful with it but the power of DM is huge. When you are a cowboy then yes, DM is probably gonna shoot your foot of. But I don't see that many cowboys in engineering. Stupid guys on the other hand, I see lots of them.

For the guys who are interested in DM, you can have a look at the WB Design456. But I have never tried it.
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grd wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:38 am But I don't see that many cowboys in engineering. Stupid guys on the other hand, I see lots of them.
Can not define cowboys in such case, but stupid engineers, i see maaaany, way to many. Engineers sounds wiser then normal person, but the are not, same gaussian normal distributed shitty people as anywhere, nothing special. I would even say, they are more lazy then other people, at least my experience.

Also i see DM as regression, the benefits are neglectable in compare to more work. Also in have seen how literately millions of $/€ was flushed down in water because of crappy DM (mal)functions.


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user1234 wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 10:32 am Can not define cowboys in such case, but stupid engineers, i see maaaany, way to many. Engineers sounds wiser then normal person, but the are not, same gaussian normal distributed shitty people as anywhere, nothing special. I would even say, they are more lazy then other people, at least my experience.
In the past someone once told me that a lazy engineer is a good engineer. Maybe I took that quote a little bit too literally but I like it ;) I don't really like all those robots, the guy who is doing click, click, click. I like to think things out before I design something and even then you need to iterate, iterate, iterate, like that robot. NX and SolidEdge does have synchronous technology, which is a form of DM, and I loved it. At that time the company that I worked for said no, but I kept on going. F*ck those rules!
Also i see DM as regression, the benefits are neglectable in compare to more work. Also in have seen how literately millions of $/€ was flushed down in water because of crappy DM (mal)functions.
Malfunctions? What is the name of the software you are referring to?

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