I haven't had any problems with occt or tnp or flipping in my fast workflow. (about 10 000 freecad hours)
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please stop advertising yourself here, honestly this is approaching the level where I would consider it spam...thomas-neemann wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 4:36 pm I haven't had any problems with occt or tnp or flipping in my fast workflow. (about 10 000 freecad hours)
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i'm just trying to balance the negative comments about freecad
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Then maybe FreeCAD shouldn't offer functionality that occt can't properly handle.adrianinsaval wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 4:30 pm the problem is that some of those issues have nothing to do with user experience, the thickness tool not working is a problem in occt, no matter how good you make the FreeCAD interface that won't change, we need people working on improving occt too.
But in the end, for the end user, the distinction between FreeCAD and occt doesn't matter. Maybe it makes you happy that you can blame someone else, but at the end of the day it doesn't change the fact that FreeCAD has serious usability problems. And if some of its major issues are outside of the projects control, then that's maybe even worse, since then it may never get solved?
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And how many hours did you need to find the subset of FreeCAD that forms a good workflow to work with? In the end that's the issue. Like what Thomas tried in the video, it offers you multiple tools to create a shell, but if you dare to use them, good luck.thomas-neemann wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 4:36 pmI haven't had any problems with occt or tnp or flipping in my fast workflow. (about 10 000 freecad hours)
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there are situations where it works so it's availableracemaniac wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 4:56 pm Then maybe FreeCAD shouldn't offer functionality that occt can't properly handle.
I'm not blaming anyone or happy about the situation, I'm pointing out facts so that you have proper understanding of the situation and the root problems and therefore realistic expectations.the distinction between FreeCAD and occt makes you happy that you can blame someone else
I have not denied this and I am one of those trying to help any way I can on this and generally support this being improved. But making freecad fancy looking is not the end of it, there is more work to do and people should be aware of that.but at the end of the day it doesn't change the fact that FreeCAD has serious usability problems.
hard to solve and not solvable are not the same thing, personally I hope that as funding increases the FPA can sponsor development of OCCT whether through that company or in a fork.And if some of its major issues are outside of the projects control, then that's maybe even worse, since then it may never get solved?
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it took a long time because most of the recommendations are partdesign / sketcher. to make it easier for interested people, i report here about my experiences and offer freecad training
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Is your workflow documented somewhere. And ideally, if your workflow is so reliable, FreeCAD should start altering its interface to promote your workflow, so we don't need thousands of hours of experience, or special training to discover it, but then that's just how FreeCAD works .thomas-neemann wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 5:20 pm
it took a long time because most of the recommendations are partdesign / sketcher. to make it easier for interested people, i report here about my experiences and offer freecad training
I think that's the point of Thomas' video. FreeCAD is clearly a powerful tool, but figuring out how to leverage it is way harder than it should be.
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no, but there are many youtube videos about it. nothing needs to be changed on freecad for this
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I think that's a really interesting discussion to have. You make it sound so obvious, but is a feature with a pretty low reliability (let's say anything below 90% reliable, it fails in at least 1 in 10 cases in real world usage) really worth anything? You could of course say that in those 9 out of 10 cases it works. But after a while you've worked towards using it, and then it fails, again, and you start wondering "is it really worth having this in my toolset?".adrianinsaval wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 5:08 pmthere are situations where it works so it's availableracemaniac wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 4:56 pm Then maybe FreeCAD shouldn't offer functionality that occt can't properly handle.
Things like this are the prime example of what drives new users away from software, and that greatly annoys many experienced users too. Yet it works sometimes so we keep it in?