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Missing med-fichier upstream

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Hi, I've been doing some package investigation and I am hoping I could get someone, especially if they can speak better French than Google Translate, to help.

The med-fichier Debian package reports persistent issues regarding the upstream URL:

https://www.code-aster.org/V2/outils/med/

This page returns 404. Now, the source is available for download at http://salome-platform.org/downloads/current-version. However, it would be really nice to have an actual upstream homepage, and even moreso, a VCS repository and place to submit bugs.

The README for med-fichier states:

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1. 	Obtenir la derniere version

La version la plus recente de la bibliotheque MED se trouve
sur le serveur intranet EDF R&D : http://med.der.edf.fr.
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1. Get the latest version

The most recent version of the MED library is located
on the EDF R & D intranet server: http://med.der.edf.fr.
However, this URL also results in a 404.

As far as I can tell this is the current version of that page:

https://www.edf.fr/en/the-edf-group/wor ... -softwares

But I'm not sure where to look further. Any ideas?
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Re: Missing med-fichier upstream

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It's unfortunate that vejmarie is MIA. He had direct contact with them, and by direct I mean: go to their office and talk to people face-to-face.

I believe I speak French better than Google Translate :D , but I don't know how I could really help.

How about this?

https://git.salome-platform.org/gitweb/ ... ;a=summary

What I find thoroughly confusing is that MED seems to be from the SALOME project. Version number is SALOME's, not MED's library...

If you're wondering how I found the Git repo: from the salome-platform.org downloads section, I clicked on "USER SECTION" in the menu bar. In that page, there is a link to Source repositories.

Edit: the content of the Git repo doesn't even match the one from the tarball. :?
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NormandC wrote: Sun Sep 23, 2018 1:00 am It's unfortunate that vejmarie is MIA. He had direct contact with them, and by direct I mean: go to their office and talk to people face-to-face.

I believe I speak French better than Google Translate :D , but I don't know how I could really help.

How about this?

https://git.salome-platform.org/gitweb/ ... ;a=summary

What I find thoroughly confusing is that MED seems to be from the SALOME project. Version number is SALOME's, not MED's library...

If you're wondering how I found the Git repo: from the salome-platform.org downloads section, I clicked on "USER SECTION" in the menu bar. In that page, there is a link to Source repositories.

Edit: the content of the Git repo doesn't even match the one from the tarball. :?
Indeed it is too bad vejmarie hasn't been around lately, hopefully his hardware projects are going well.

Like you found in your edit, I think that's one of a few pieces of downstream software for MED, unfortunately.

I think the next best step is to try to find an inside person who can answer things like (i) what's the new homepage, (ii) where can we submit improvements or track development, and (iii) where can we submit bugs.

The institutional contact page for EDF is probably too generic a place to start, but if you felt like trying to compose a message in French asking about this, it would probably move along faster: https://www.edf.fr/contacts/institutionnels

There's also a SALOME forum where these questions might reach the right people, but new user registration is closed. I emailed them a while back asking if I could have an account created but never heard anything back. However I see now Kunda has an account there, perhaps you could try to forward these questions along as well, Kunda?
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Re: Missing med-fichier upstream

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How about pm vejmarie if he have a contact person??
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Jee-Bee wrote: Sun Sep 23, 2018 8:39 am How about pm vejmarie if he have a contact person??
I tried getting in touch with him this way a while back and didn't have any luck, nor on Twitter.
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As far as I understand it, that's not a link to libmed, but to a med module from salome, which probably is built around med file / med fichier.

But they have a download link at https://www.salome-platform.org/downloa ... nt-version right above the hardware requirements section, where they list external software used by the salome platform.

Unfortunately I haven't found any other locations too. I was thinking libmed is actually part of salome, which it is not, according to the link. For my gentoo ebuild I am currently using the download from salome platform, although I'd be glad to also have a upstream link.
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waebbl wrote: Sun Sep 23, 2018 11:31 am
As far as I understand it, that's not a link to libmed, but to a med module from salome, which probably is built around med file / med fichier.

But they have a download link at https://www.salome-platform.org/downloa ... nt-version right above the hardware requirements section, where they list external software used by the salome platform.

Unfortunately I haven't found any other locations too. I was thinking libmed is actually part of salome, which it is not, according to the link. For my gentoo ebuild I am currently using the download from salome platform, although I'd be glad to also have a upstream link.
It's actually a specialized version of HDF5 with optimizations for handling meshes. It may offer significant performance benefits for large meshes whose size are near or beyond a machine's memory limit, so I really would like to improve the state of the package.

Here's an interesting video on HDF5 which is pretty relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nddj5OA8LJo
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kkremitzki wrote: Sun Sep 23, 2018 11:53 am It's actually a specialized version of HDF5 with optimizations for handling meshes. It may offer significant performance benefits for large meshes whose size are near or beyond a machine's memory limit, so I really would like to improve the state of the package.

Here's an interesting video on HDF5 which is pretty relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nddj5OA8LJo
Which one? med fichier or the med module of salome?

Thanks for the HDF5 video link!
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Re: Missing med-fichier upstream

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waebbl wrote: Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:50 pm
kkremitzki wrote: Sun Sep 23, 2018 11:53 am It's actually a specialized version of HDF5 with optimizations for handling meshes. It may offer significant performance benefits for large meshes whose size are near or beyond a machine's memory limit, so I really would like to improve the state of the package.

Here's an interesting video on HDF5 which is pretty relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nddj5OA8LJo
Which one? med fichier or the med module of salome?

Thanks for the HDF5 video link!
Sorry, ambiguous 'it' there. I was referring to libmed/med-fichier.
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Re: Missing med-fichier upstream

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kkremitzki wrote: Sun Sep 23, 2018 4:49 pm
waebbl wrote: Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:50 pm
kkremitzki wrote: Sun Sep 23, 2018 11:53 am It's actually a specialized version of HDF5 with optimizations for handling meshes. It may offer significant performance benefits for large meshes whose size are near or beyond a machine's memory limit, so I really would like to improve the state of the package.

Here's an interesting video on HDF5 which is pretty relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nddj5OA8LJo
Which one? med fichier or the med module of salome?

Thanks for the HDF5 video link!
Sorry, ambiguous 'it' there. I was referring to libmed/med-fichier.
I see. Do you, by chance, know if someone tried to include this with the hdf5 distribution? IMO it could make sense to add .med file support into hdf5 directly.
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