Request for help with Analysis and Constraints

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Re: Request for help with Analysis and Constraints

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Laurie Hartley wrote: Sat Sep 24, 2022 7:56 am ...
The one area I struggled with was introducing the mesh regions _ I just couldn't figure out how to get them into the analysis tree??
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Put all parts in a Compound, with Part-wb "Make Compound" (BooleanFragments Mode=CompSolid!)
Generate the basic mesh.
Select mesh in modell tree, press refinement button.
In refinement-dialog, select the region to refine (line, face or solid).
Remesh body.
You can define more than one refinement-zone.
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Re: Request for help with Analysis and Constraints

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Laurie Hartley wrote: Sat Sep 24, 2022 7:56 am ...
Nevertheless I didn't like the look of those "hot-spots" in the top corners of the tube pockets and felt I could alleviate them by introducing curves into the pocket corners and chamfers to the top edges of the brick.
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Rounding the corners in the tube opening doesnt help, still excessive stress
in the corner (10 kN loading). The color-plot is cut of at 235 MPa, peak-stress is 1700 MPa, red zones.
A linear-elastic analysis gives the result, that your part breaks. Which is not true.
Your part is a good example why @harryvl recommends a plastic analysis with
max plastic strain as design parameter.
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Re: Request for help with Analysis and Constraints

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Plastic analysis with Steel S235 sigma/strain curve.
max sigma v.Mises now 283 MPa, max equivalent plastic strain 1% < 5% ==> ok.
Convergence is poor, ccx needs 1000 seconds :shock:
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Re: Request for help with Analysis and Constraints

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@thschrader thanks yet again for your three posts Thomas. Subjects for further investigation next week;

Mesh regions
Plastic strain and
convergence?

I will try to reproduce your latest file after I have downloaded it and examined it.

I must admit I was surprised the curves made little difference which just goes to show you are never too old to learn ;)

Nevertheless going by your numbers this design is more than adequate for what I have in mind.
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Re: Request for help with Analysis and Constraints

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@thschrader Thomas I was able to take a quick look at your file today - it looked a bit strange when I opened it? See screenshot. Did you change the pocket size or has something happened during transit?

Nevertheless I was able to run the mesh and calculix successfully - it took about 6000 seconds.
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Re: Request for help with Analysis and Constraints

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Laurie Hartley wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 11:26 am Did you change the pocket size or has something happened during transit?
I shortened the tube/block length to reduce FEM-cell count.


Laurie Hartley wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 11:26 am Nevertheless I was able to run the mesh and calculix successfully - it took about 6000 seconds.
6000 sec is definitely too long. Strange.
I will have a look at it.
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Re: Request for help with Analysis and Constraints

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Reduced model size, changed mesh-refinement.
Runtime now 250 sec plastic analysis on intel i5 cpu.
I played with different yield-curves (S235 and S460).
There is no relevant difference in runtime.

Result:
S235 PEEQ=2,4% < 5
S460 PEEQ=1,4% < 5
PEEQ=equivalent plastic strain.
No need to use high grade steel and waste money.

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Re: Request for help with Analysis and Constraints

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thschrader wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:36 pm Reduced model size, changed mesh-refinement.
Runtime now 250 sec plastic analysis on intel i5 cpu.
Your results are encouraging.
I tried to reproduce your model from scratch - obviously unsuccessful. I was warned - see screenshot. It produce a mesh after about 600 seconds and the CPU running at about 80% capacity (AMD Ryzen 7 3700)
Can you see where I have gone wrong please?
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Re: Request for help with Analysis and Constraints

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thschrader wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:36 pm Result:
S235 PEEQ=2,4% < 5
S460 PEEQ=1,4% < 5
PEEQ=equivalent plastic strain.
No need to use high grade steel and waste money.
A few comments:

1) If the load is cyclic (repeated loading/unloading) then it becomes important to also consider stress itself and apply a Miner-type failure criterion.
2) High grade steel is actually more brittle and therefore not only a waste of money, but also more prone to ductile cracking/failure.
3) The 5% limit strain is just a rule of thumb and under high triaxial tension it may be non-conservative. It is therefore better to use the latest FreeCAD version and let it calculate the critical strain ratio. I ran the analysis and find a critical strain ratio of 0.591, which is lower than 1, but still quite high. However, considering the safety factor of 1.5 perhaps acceptable for STATIC loading:

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Re: Request for help with Analysis and Constraints

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Laurie Hartley wrote: Thu Oct 20, 2022 6:29 am ...
Can you see where I have gone wrong please?
You must upgrade the Boolean-Fragments to a Compound.
This works with part-wb (button or Part/Compound/Make Compound)
Be sure that the Boolean-Fragment Mode is "CompSolid".
After that, you must re-attach the mesh to the compound, otherwise the meshing-error remains.
Re-attach force and fixings to compound too.

Or: use a simple part-fusion body
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